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bozwellox79
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Hello,

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I have a simple bass shaker setup comprising of a pair of Dayton Audio Pucks attached to my pedal deck (left and right), and a single Monacor shaker mounted to the bottom of my seat.

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I've managed to get control over what effects I want to go to the L&R front shakers by setting that devide to "Custom channel map". This opens up the option to define which effects are sent to the front L&R shakers, and gives control over the levels for each effect. Great.

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With the mono shaker though, if I set it to mono in SimHub, I don't seem to have individual control over which effects are sent to it, or to be able to adjust the levels indipendently from the front shakers (for example I'd like road impacts to go mainly to the mono shaker, but send a lower signal to the pedals).

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I can't work out a way to do this. Do I need to set the mono shaker to "custom channel map"? This seems to be the only way to gain indiviual control over each effect.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give!


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Hi !

Indeed all the mono / Left right / front rear etc, are just simple presets for an easy jump start or in order to deal easily with simple homogeneous setups. If you want to get advanced effects gain in order to balance them over heterogeneous hardware, the custom channel map is the way to go πŸ˜‰

Offering per effect gains to the presets modes would be redundant with custom channel mode that's why I've not added it (even if technically it's possible), I intentionally wanted to keep a frank separation between "presets" (keeping them the simplest possible) and custom mode (giving all the advanced mapping and balance possibilities).

Nicolas


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Thanks!

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So in my case, where I'm using a stereo amp bridged to the mono shaker I would just set channels 1 & 2 "on" for each effect I want to send to the bass shaker, then set the 1 & 2 levels equally?

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Thanks so much for all the work you've put in to SimHub. Adding the bass shakers is the best thing I've done to my rig for immersion!

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If it's a mono amplifier just map the channel 1, no need to send twice the signal you would just get gain aberrations and saturations due to the same signal signal being sent twice. These mono amplifiers have both input in order to convert stereo to mono (it simply mixes the two channels), but since simhub can already generate you a mono signal over a single channel you only need to feed that channel to the amplifier. I would also suggest to simply unplug the channel 2 RCA if it's possible in order to have a proper mono setup hardware wise.


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I'm using one of the Nobsound USB stereo amps ( https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nobsound-Bluetooth-Amplifier-Wireless-Receiver-black/dp/B0725PJQQV/ref=asc_df_B0725PJQQV/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310847824698&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10880163304229354313&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9046120&hvtargid=pla-563851878890&psc=1).

It's connected to the PC via USB (so it shows effectively as an additional soundcard) and wired it up like this as I was under the impression this would give twice the power (as both channels are being fed to a single shaker). Is this not the case? Should I just connect both speaker cables to the channel 1 positive and negative, then send to the shaker, rather than bridging across channel 1 & 2?What Does it Mean to Bridge an Amplifier? - Sonic Electronix Learning  Center and Blog

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Hum ! I see, personally I would not bridge an amplifier not explicitly mentioning support fur such wiring πŸ˜‰ Not sure it will last for long.

In all cases in my opinion for simplicity I would hard wire both amplifier inputs to the same channel (using Y rca adapter) just by adding this little adaper it will make your life easier by simply managing one channel being output on one shaker, and the fact that the amplifier is bridged becomes only a matter of wiring.


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In this case though the amplifier input is USB direct from the PC. There are no RCA inputs on the amp, so I'm not sure how to get full power from the amp without bridging it.


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Ha! Ignore me, I just connected the shaker simply to channel 1 & 2 on the amp and it's working like a charm, so no need for bridging or any other nonsense.

Now to get all the cutoffs dialled in. Thanks for all your help!


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I know this thread is old but I seem to have a similar issue and would like some help... if possible.

Basically I have 2 Dayton pucks. One is attached to my brake pedal & the other to my throttle. The Dayton pucks are attached to my nobsound connected via USB to my PC. Channel 1 = brake. Channel 2 = throttle.

I also have a LFE Buttkicker attached to my seat. The Buttkicker is attached to a Buttkicker amp which is connected via RCA to Standard jack on my PC’s onboard sound card. What I would like to do is use three effects.Β 

1. Brake pedal = Lock up on front wheels (only)

2. Throttle pedal = Wheel slip on rear wheels (only)

3. Buttkicker = Wheel lock up on rear wheels (only)

How would you go about this in Simhub? I can’t seem to get the Buttkicker to be separated from the Dayton pucks.Β 

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Hi,
Use custom channel maps on both audio outputs.
These let you can send each effect to the desired channel.


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Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

I have setup the custom channel maps already. The problem with this is, when tuning the effects in the Effects Profile I would like to set the Wheels lock effect "Base effect frequency (Hz)", at 20 for the Buttkicker and 50 Hz for the Dayton Puck.Β 

I cannot do this as the Base frequency setting sets the frequency for both front and back. If I set the Base effect freq. @ 20 Hz I cannot feel the puck. If I set the Base effect freq. @ 50 my teeth will fall out with the Buttkicker being too strong and the frequency feels wrong.

Please see the images posted below. Let me know if I have done anything wrong.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kKtYdlYaxSKgEThmA5J89zGN7CO3DC-o/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/120hFo_DShK9C7g_JlHHUrsYN8d-3qip6/view?usp=sharing


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Hi,
You can have multiple instances of the same effect with different frequency settings on them.
And map them independently with the outputs channel settings


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It will appear as a separate effect in the mapping table

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